Fly the dot. The single-engine MiGs were half the size of the F-4 and more agile. In a swirling 15-minute dogfight, the Phantoms shot down seven MiG 21s—almost half of the total possessed by North Vietnam… Batson also stood alerts, ready to respond in the event MiGs tried to attack the ships on Yankee Station. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies. Air strikes shifted from ad hoc events to a sustained campaign. The principal matchup was between the McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II­—flown by the Air Force, the Navy, and the Marine Corps for bombing, combat air patrol, reconnaissance, and suppression of enemy air defenses—and North Vietnam’s MiG-17s and MiG-21s. George O. Guss (deceased in 1992). The Air Force did not have anything comparable until its Red Flag program began in 1975. Batson (left) and RIO Doremus pose for a victory photo in their F-4B after returning from their MiG encounter. Attacks were forbidden in large prohibited areas around Hanoi and Haiphong. At that time, radar intercept officers (RIOs) were members of the naval aviation observer community, the current designation—naval flight officer—being introduced in 1966. An F-4 crew admires a fifth aerial kill marked on their F-4 Phantom. The fraternity of Vietnam era fighter pilots who actually engaged a MiG in life or death aerial combat is very small and very elite. Although the war was instigated, directed, supplied, reinforced, and sustained from the North, US policy was that the outcome would be decided in the south. Only two of the Vietnam War aces—Air Force Capt. The first US victories were in June 1965 by Navy F-4Bs operating from a carrier in the Tonkin Gulf. The North Vietnamese fighter fleet stood at 40, of which only 12 were MiG-21s. Thus, it came as a surprise on April 3, 1965, when a pair of MiG-17s pounced on a US Navy strike flight south of Hanoi and raked the F-8E Crusader fighter-bombers with 23 mm cannon fire. Batson revealed that they were filled with “medicinal” brandy. The first Air Force victories did not occur until July 10, when F-4Cs, flying from Ubon Air Base in Thailand, shot down two MiG-17s. On the left wing were two Sidewinders. This fighter aircraft, flown by various pilots, was credited for 14 kills during the Vietnam War. I saw his afterburners wink off, rendezvoused on him and we dove back to the area of the engagement.”. 2 officer said Jan. 22. The North Vietnamese offset their vulnerabilities by picking their times to fight. When the aviators asked if it was because the Navy got the first confirmed MiG kills, the blue-suiter replied, “No, it’s because we were going to announce the first strike by B-52s and you guys stole the headlines.”. HistoryNet.com is brought to you by Historynet LLC, the world's largest publisher of history magazines. Austin, who retired in 2016 as the four-star commander of U.S. Central Command…, The Biden administration is reportedly tapping Stefanie Tompkins to run the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, spurring the third leadership change at the secretive Pentagon organization since January 2020. Batson quipped, “Imagine if they’d gotten the first kills!”. The first unit was formed in 1959. The MiGs, try as they might and despite occasional periods of success—could not stop them. Navy airmen also complained about the lack of a gun, but a cannon in the nose shifted the F-4’s center of gravity too far forward for carrier operations, so USN aircrews finished the war with their missile armament. For his action the 30 year old Atlanta , Georgia native was awarded the Silver Star. As they climbed down from their fighter, Doremus turned to Bat­son and said, “Four more to go!” (to make ace). The older MiG-15s were used only for training purposes. This mission is of special interest as it was the first confirmed MiG kill of the Vietnam War. Any MiG kills obtained were considered a bonus. From left: Batson, Page, Doremus and J.C. Smith recount details of the mission for an intelligence officer. The research is thorough, the individual accounts are detailed, and the descriptions and discussions of 1960s-era air-to-air combat weapons and tactics are educational. He had served his country, and done his duty well. “When we got the brief we were aghast. Whether airborne or on alert, Rob Doremus was in his backseat almost every time. Preparation for the next deployment began in July. Such engagements required more frequent employment of short range weapons, and since the Navy F-4s had no guns, the Sidewinder missile was their primary weapon.”. Dave Batson then enjoyed a long and successful career as an engineer with Western Electric. A textbook intercept and missile launch by U.S. Navy F-4 Phantoms resulted in the first confirmed MiG kills of the Vietnam War. “I was concentrating on keeping the target illuminated [by radar]. U.S. officials say they lost 245 aircraft in air-to-air combat during the war. Frank Falcone. After attending Doremus’ funeral, he pulled himself together and continued fighting the war, though the loss remained with him. But there were no victory passes for this pair: Batson was detached for a straight-in approach and landed with 500 pounds remaining, which is low for an F-4 and carrier ops. The Thuds, carrying heavy bomb loads, were unable to react. Their flight lead would be Page and Smith in NE101, which bore the names of VF-21 commanding officer Commander Bill Franke and his RIO, Lt. The F-105 packed a fast-shooting 20 mm cannon, but early models of the F-4 did not have a gun. Relatively recently it has been determined that U.S. Air Force North American F-100D Super Sabre pilot Captain Donald Kilgus “probably” got a gun kill on a MiG-17 on April 4, 1965, during one of the first aerial engage­ments of the war. Photo: Vietnamese News Agency. Teaball screened, combined, and analyzed a large volume of data in order to provide the earliest possible MiG warning to the strike forces. When Page and Smith briefed Batson and Doremus on the plan, all four aviators were concerned about the VID range for the diminutive MiGs. The Phantom crews were greeted by cheers as they walked to their ready room, and Page was diverted to the flag bridge (a level in the ship’s island where an admiral and other VIPs could observe ops). Controllers notified aircrews not only of the location of a MiG, but also whether it was a MiG-17, -19, or -21. The MiG-19, manufactured in China, did not appear until the last part of the war. Officially, there were 16 VPAF Aces during Vietnam War (13 were MiG-21 pilots, and three were MiG-17 drivers, there were no MiG-19 aces). During the conflict, the F-8 achieved a kill ratio of 19:3, as the type downed 16 MiG-17s and 3 MiG-21s. Batson was ready. USAF and USN fighters confronted the MiGs in two phases: 1965-1968 and 1972-1973, separated by an interval when operations over North Vietnam were halted during negotiations attempting to end the war. However, this kill is still a probable kill, likely of a Chinese MIG, which is why the caption says (probably) Ian Bevan April 10, 2019 at 7:48 am - Reply. Batson and Doremus were assigned a MiGCAP, flying Phantom NE102, which had Page’s and Smith’s names on the canopy rails. “After action reports found that 65 percent of Air Force losses were suffered by aircraft fighting from a defensive posture, which required a fighter under attack to reverse positions to get a kill, a very difficult maneuver to make,” Sayers said. Rule number two was that you had to have visual identification [VID].”, These two requirements, while prudent in light of multiservice air operations and the command-and-control situation, nullified several of the Phan­tom’s strengths. The naval aviators were acutely aware that most of the airplanes flying over North Vietnam were American, and they needed to adhere to the VID requirement before shooting. It was less maneuverable than the MiG-17 and slower than the MiG-21. Their mugs contained “medicinal” brandy. Click here or on the image above to view Air Force Magazine’s full-size infographic as a PDF. Jeffrey S. Feinstein was, like DeBellevue, a WSO. The F-4 was developed by the Navy and entered service in 1962. During the Vietnam War, thousands of U.S. aircraft were lost to antiaircraft artillery (AAA), surface-to-air missiles (SAMs), and fighter interceptors ()s.The great majority of U.S. combat losses in all areas of Southeast Asia were to AAA. The Air Force had a Vietnam … When the dot was in the circle, the crew had a valid shot. Planning for a forward-quarter intercept (head-on approach), they decided the aircraft with the first radar contact would become the tactical lead, and the wingman would slide into a three-to four-mile trail. June 17 started out as just another Thursday morning. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. More air-to-air losses were allegedly attributed to surface-to-air … More than two-thirds of the MiG kills were by the Air Force, but the USAF exchange ratio of 2.04 was not as good as the Navy’s 3.68. The list includes all the Vietnamese credited as aces. After the deployment, Batson planned to attend the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, Calif., to pursue a master’s degree in computer science. By 1975 when the US completely pulled out of Vietnam, it had the highest kill ratio of any American fighter involved in the conflict: a staggering 19:3, meaning that for 19 Vietnamese MiGs downed, only 3 Crusaders were lost. A US Military Combat Jet Fires an Air to Air missile destroying a Vietnamese Mig During the Vietnam War. Naval aviation had been bloodied, with dozens of aircraft damaged or destroyed in combat and several aircrews lost or taken prisoner. Air Force Projects Halted by Continuing Resolution Now Move Forward, Next F-35 Contracts Under Negotiation, Deal Expected by Late September, New Paint Job for Air Force One Not on Biden’s To-Do List, Yet, COVID-19 Delays Pentagon’s New Joint Warfighting Plan, Austin Becomes 1st Black Defense Secretary, DARPA Changing Directors Again in Third Recent Shuffle, Thousands of Guardsmen Remain in Capital Region After Inauguration. The imagined Colonel Toon was traced in part to confusion by signals intelligence operators listening to North Vietnamese radio communications. By chance, Secretary of the Navy Paul Nitze (left) was on hand to congratulate Commander Lou Page. The image of a North Vietnamese MiG-21 as viewed through the lens of a USAF gun camera during a dogfight. Visual identification of enemy aircraft was required rather than using radar for target acquisition and firing long-range missiles before the MiGs could attack. Four more F-4s also flew as MiGCAP. (In order for us all to truly understand what these awards are for and mean, I thought we should take a look at some. There were no MiG-19 aces. U.S. Navy McDonnell F-4B Phantom II pilot Dave Batson fires an AIM-7 Sparrow missile at a pair of MiG-17s, with an assist from his radar intercept officer, Rob Doremus. James Mills. The Navy’s single engine F-8 Crusader bagged 15 MiGs. The F-4s did not account for all of the MiGs destroyed, though. Robin Olds had 4 kills in Vietnam, making him a lifetime triple-ace with 16 kills, including the 12 he registered in World War II. MiG Killers will serve any reader—historian, aviation enthusiast, or fighter pilot—who wants a comprehensive summary of American MiG kills during the Vietnam War. One event that stands out in Batson’s mind was the briefing on rules of engagement (ROE). (U.S. Navy via Batson). The pilot squeezed the trigger, and for the first time in his life a missile roared off his fighter. MiG Killers - In March 1965, U.S. air strikes into North Vietnam began. The entire strike group was on a single radio frequency but the radio was relatively quiet, mostly calls from the Douglas A-4 pilots doing the bombing. John T. Correll was editor in chief of Air Force Magazine for 18 years and is a frequent contributor. The leader was Nguyen Van Coc, with nine credits awarded, seven of them for US aircraft and two for Firebee drones. Thank you, Lou Page. When the air war resumed in 1972 after the bombing halt, the VPAF MiG total was up to 206, an all-time high. by propeller-driven A-1 Skyraiders of Attack Squadron 25 (VA-25). A few days later, on June 20, Navy Douglas A-1H Skyraiders—ground-attack aircraft—claimed a gun kill on a MiG-17. Norman F. Conant, Jr., sent me an email message that contained a Robin Olds story. Air Wing 2 squadrons resumed their strike, reconnaissance and combat air patrols. Flying from smaller Essex-class carriers, the F-8 was used in fewer numbers than the larger F-4 Phantom II. Midway’s crew knew they were sailing for a combat zone as they left San Francisco Bay on March 6, 1965. Jack David Batson grew up in Buffalo, N.Y., and set his sights on flying. The following is a list of United States aerial victories of the Vietnam War: Date Squadron Aircraft Weapon Pilot Radar Intercept/Weapons System Officer Aircraft destroyed Notes 1965 April 4: 416th TFS : F-100D: 20mm: Kilgus D. CPT N/A MiG-17: listed as probable kill 1965 April 9: VF-96: F-4B: Murphy T. LTJG Fegan R. ENS MiG-17 1965 June 17: VF-21: F-4B AIM-7: Page L. CDR Smith J. LTCDR MiG … On their MiG-killing mission of Jun. Don Kilgus aboard F-100D 55-2894. Richard S. “Steve” Ritchie and Navy Lt. Randall H. Cunningham­—were pilots. Batson checked his instruments and radioed Page that he was below bingo fuel (the amount required to return to the carrier). The ground war was already hot, and the air war had entered a new phase when Operation Rolling Thunder began on March 2. He was a navigator, flying as a weapons system officer, in the back seat of the F-4. There were bright spots—pilots and RIOs who recognized the Phantom’s versatility and practiced dogfighting—but they were in the minority. Its signal reached into the Red River delta as far as the airfields around Hanoi and directed intercepts of the MiGs. 17, 1965, Commander Lou Page (pilot) and Lieutenant JC Smith were flying F-4B bureau number (buno) 150646 — not 151488 as sometimes reported. Aces and Aerial Victories, a 1976 publication by the Air Force Office of History, did not mention this possibility in its account of the event, saying MiGs “downed two [F-105s] with cannon fire and escaped at high speed.” Author Robert F. Dorr, however, made a strong case for the kill in a 2014 online article. Gen. John W. Vogt Jr., commander of 7th Air Force from 1972-1973 described Teaball as “by far the most effective instrument in the battle with the MiGs.” Some disagreed with that assessment, regarding Red Crown and other intelligence sources as more important. “Fighters escorting the bomb-carrying aircraft never knew where the threat would come from and therefore normally stayed close to the planes they were protecting so they wouldn’t be caught out of position during an attack. “We forfeited our initial advantage of being able to detect a MiG at 30- to 35-mile range,” said Gen. William W. Momyer, commander of 7th Air Force from 1966 to 1968. The MiGs came in through a thick layer of haze, eluding the F-100s flying protective air patrol. Momyer rated it “a very poor plane in a dogfight,” but it managed to bring down more than two dozen MiGs. Rob Doremus was shot down on August 24, 1965, while flying with VF-21 skipper Bill Franke. The first was on 17 December 1967 in an F-4D against a MiG-17 piloted by Captain Doyle D. Baker, USMC and 1st Lt. John D. Ryan, Jr., U.S. Air Force. In reality, Colonel Toon never existed. Author Michael O’Connor describes the incident in MiG Killers of Yankee Station, highlighting the confusion and frustration surrounding the engagement and debrief. I could not locate it on your website. As a result, US Air Force aircraft usually entered engagements from a defensive and reactive posture.”. Page said something like, ‘Going into fighter role.’ I did a big ol’ lazy barrel roll to get into trail position and we accelerated to 500 knots.”, A North Vietnamese MiG-17 returns to Phuc Yen Air Base. VPAF MiG-17 and MiG-21 Aces of the Vietnam War I did see an explosion, then I lit the afterburners and pulled up as we planned.”, Reorienting his brain to the next phase of the plan, Batson looked up to find his lead. Though primarily a fighter, F-8s also saw duty in ground attack roles during the conflict. In any case, the air campaign in North Vietnam was of limited interest to officials in Washington. Lt. (USN Photo) June 20, 1965 ~ A-1 Skyraider MiG Killers . In World War II, hundreds of US airmen became aces, credited with five or more aerial victories. As for the VPAF, the MiG-17 was basically a gun platform. In Operation Bolo, the famous “MiG Sweep” of January 1967, a force of F-4Cs from Ubon entered North Vietnam pretending to be bomb-carrying F-105s. Seldom emphasized about the second Skyraider-MiG encounter of the Vietnam War is the probability that three MiGs were destroyed by Spads. Faced with this reality, VF-21 aircrews spent time thinking about tactics during the long Pacific transit. The probability that three MiGs were destroyed by Spads mind was the F-4E, introduced in 1968 and adding 20. Even so, the world 's largest publisher of history magazines on with. 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